Third Round Of Opinion on Congressman Weiner-Huma Abedin Controversy

14 June 2011

By El-Hajj Mauri' Saalakhan

Assalaamu Alaikum (Greeting of Peace to All):

This will be the final round of divergent opinion (shared by us) on the Congressman Weiner-Huma Abedin controversy. I believe that most, if not all, shades of opinion on this issue have been heard from; and thus, a continuation of the dialogue/debate would serve no positive interest.

Insha'Allah, either today or tomorrow I will release a final summary statement on my own personal perspective - after having read and reflected on the mostly valuable opinions of others (even where I have strongly disagreed).

Despite the rather narrow minded thinking of a few, I believe this has been a very valuable and much needed discourse. (Surely ALLAH knows best.)


Asalaam Alaikum Hajj Saalakhan,

May Allah (swt) bless you for providing this "dialogue" about this Abedin-Wiener mess. There are definitely lessons we as a community should take from it.

I'm glad some of the others pointed out the fact that this "marriage" is not considered such if your source of reference is the Quran or sunnah/seerah. I'm also glad that you made the point that we as a community have a responsibility to publicly and clearly enjoin the good deeds and *forbid the bad deeds*. This is a part of our deen that we American Muslims are neglecting. When the sources of misinformation, I mean the mainstream media, attempt to portray this woman as "practicing Muslim" we need to call them on their attempts to drag this deen into the gutter.

Jazakallah.

- Faheem (Virgina)

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Assalamu Alaikum,

I don't know if it is too late to comment on this sad chapter. However, I find myself compelled to make two brief comments:

- It is interesting that the marriage of this Muslim sister to a non-Muslim was not raised before this shameful episode. I am sure that there are many other Muslim women are doing the same thing. Where we as Muslims should stay away from backbiting (gheebah) we should however stand against the action itself. As a matter of religious ruling, this marriage is INVALID and the sister has committed a sin (May Allah give her hidaya) not only by marrying a non-Muslim but by marrying a clear and pronounced Zionist and enemy of the Palestinians the majority of which are Muslim.

- This is the kind of Islam that is being encouraged by the enemies of Islam. An Islam that is watered down and diluted where women and men could pray next each other, where a woman could be an Imam and give Jumua Khutbah, where intermarriage between Muslim women and non Muslims is acceptable, where Hijab is symbol of oppression not modesty, where homosexuality is OK .. just to mention a few. Just as other religions have been diluted, even practically disappeared, save the symbols the supposed followers wear on their necks.

If we keep silent, take no action, and continue to lower the bar, our faith will meet the same end as other faiths. "in lam tafa'loo yastabdil qauman ghayrakum thumma la yakunoo amthalakum" .

- (identity unknown and location)
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As-Salaamu-aliakum,

After reading the below posts we must ask ourselves:

1. Where is Huma from?
2. What is her interpretation of marrying people of the book?
3. Did she think that her marriage would help unite Muslims and Jews?
4. Weiner must be a public Zionist but a private pro-Muslim, he cannot marry someone who comes from a Muslim family and totally hate Muslims. If that is the case why did he not marry someone who is Jewish?
5. Did Huma grow up in a religious household with the right Islamic teachings and proper interpretations of the Quran and Sunnah?
6. In the NY Muslim community we must ask ourselves how can Weiner have two faces, one that says he wants to shut down any banks that support terrorism.
7. Who is the REAL Anthony Weiner and will we ever truly know him?

- Tahira (New York)

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Mauri,

Thank you for posting about this issue from a Muslim perspective. I have been wondering about precisely these matters, but have not seen them discussed in the MSM.

As I read this, it occurs to me that perhaps Weiner behaved in the way he did PRECISELY because his wife was a Muslim--he married her and then proceeded to behave in such a disgusting way precisely to humiliate her.

This is why a Muslim woman should never marry a non-Muslim man: for her own protection. Whether he did it consciously or not, he married her and then behaved as he did because he is arrogantly contemptuous of her as a MUSLIM. He perceived Muslim women (consciously or not) just like he does all women, apparently, as sex objects to expose himself and humiliate. Muslim women are so perceived in the West.

As far as not backbiting goes: if both he and she were private citizens, this would certainly apply, but since they are both public figures, criticism of them is a political matter. (I would certainly not express my feelings to either of them except through publicly sanctioned media.) She is a public figure because she did not at any time refrain from being in the public arena. Recall that when Mussolini was found and killed along with his mistress, his wife was never harmed. This is because she stayed out of the public arena and attended to her duties as a wife and mother. If Huma Weiner had done the same, she would not deserve to have her name mentioned in public, but she married an arrogant Zionist--a man who has voted many times to fund a country that kills Muslims. Furthermore, she allowed her wedding to be performed by another man in the public arena who is also a famous womanizer [Bill Clinton]. She can hardly claim, nor should we grant her, the cloak of decency afforded private citizens.

As far as I am concerned, she gave aid and comfort to the enemy.

Sincerely,
- Hajja Romi (somewhere in the southwest)

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As Salaamu Aliakum Br. Saala Khan,

Jazakallahu Khair! You have done a great service to Muslims by writing on this issue. You have exposed how confused Muslim intellectuals are in our society, yes I mean intellectuals. They were sophisticated in their criticism. One suggestion I have is to get someone like Sk. Zaid Shakir to comment on this union from a fiqh perspective and shut out all the confused critics.

Wa Salaam,

- A brother in North Carolina

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Salaam,

re: the weiner-related article

I did not agree with the article that was posted on the list serv. I greatly appreciated and agreed with this analysis by Suhaib Webb which may not characterize the original article nor its intent per se, but still makes a valid general point for those who are more extreme in their critiques of Ms. Abedin:

"Demonizing a Muslim woman who made bad choices is not only disgusting, but un-Islamic. What type of community fails to offer the hope of redemption, love and warmth to a person who is shattered? Final judgment is left to Allah. I pray for her during this hard time and I ask Allah to comfort her heart and bring her back to His pleasure. "


Thank you for being open to receiving feedback,


- A sister in Washington, DC (Capitol Hill, I believe)

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ASA Mauri,

Thanks for sharing these responses. I for one was very shocked and deeply disappointed by the responses by many "Muslims" to this whole affair. It gave me more confirmation as to why Muslims are in the very sorry state that we are in today.

What bothered me the most was how un-aware so many Muslims were and how uncaring they were for the plight of their Palestinian Muslim and Christian brothers and sisters. They treated the marriage between Weiner and Abedin as a normal marriage with no insight or awareness of who this man represents and what his representation meant for the untold number of deaths and sufferings of the Palestinian people. Their callousness to that reality was very appalling to say the least.

During the life of the Prophet (saaw) in Medina, there were many Jewish clans that existed known as the Jews of Yathrib. At first the Prophet (saaw) hoped that the Jews of Yathrib, as followers of a divine religion, would show understanding of the new monotheistic religion, Islam. However, they adopted an actively hostile attitude towards Islam and even joined the Quraish in attacking the Muslim community in Medina. They were enemies of Islam and worked actively to destroy the Muslim community. What would the Prophet (saaw) do if a "Muslim" woman in Medina decided to marry one of the Jewish leaders of that community? How do you think the Prophet (saaw) and the Muslims of that time would react to this woman especially knowing that she is marrying into the same people who hate Muslims and are bent on exterminating them? Not only that, but a leader in the affront against Muslims?

Maybe some "Muslims" may still not understand so I will ask the question using an American example. During the revolutionary war, how would George Washington and the other Patriots react if a "Patriotic" woman amongst them went and married a leader amongst the British who was waging war on them? We know about Benedict Arnold what do you think their reactions would be to this traitorous act by this "Patriotic" woman?

Well Congressman Weiner is a leader amongst the Jews in this country in support of the Israelis and the suppression, murder and humiliation of the Palestinians. He actively supported the massacre of Palestinians, Muslims and Christians, in Gaza and has worked to get millions of our tax dollars to be given freely to the Israeli racist regime. Why would any conscious Muslim woman want to marry a man like that? As for Huma Abedin, her track record speaks for itself. To work for a mass murderer and enemy to Islam and Muslims like Hillary Clinton is enough to tell us that she really didn't care for Muslims and Muslim issues. Then to compound that by marrying a man who is actively involved with supporting Israel is enough to let us know that she totally didn't care and was callous to Muslims and the interest of the Ummah.

If an Israeli girl decided to marry a Hamas leader, the Israelis would have enough sense to condemn that and some of the same "Muslims" praising this marriage of Weiner to Huma would probably join in the condemnation. They would probably be the first ones to cry out about marrying a "terrorist" with their Jewish friends. Shame, shame, shame on the sick state that "Muslims" have come to that they are blinded to the awareness of the significance of this marriage to the point where they attack Mauri for rightfully criticizing it. Sadly so, many Muslims are in bad need of a wake up call. If Abidin's marriage was to an anti-Zionist Jew, then it would be more acceptible. But to marry a raving Zionist bent on supporting Israel and bringing more death and misery to the Palestinians is unforgiveable and she should be treated as a traitor to all Muslims for her actions. She has chosen of her own free will to "sleep with the enemy" and deserves the full wrath of disgrace and punishment that she is rightfully due.

85. Strongest among men in enmity To the Believers wilt thou Find the Jews and Pagans; And nearest among them in love To the Believers wilt thou find those who say, “We are Christians”

- Br. Nashid (overseas)
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Salaamun Alaikum ,
1- Could a Muslimah marry a non Muslim man ? NO
2- In Islam does end justify mean? some times depending on particular occation and the greater good for Musllims.

However, ibn Abi Hatim reported, There was [an] important man [who] used to frequently visit Umar Ibn khataab (RLA) from SHAAM; when the man stopped visiting Umar Ibn khataab (RLA) he asked about the man from SHAAM, and [his] companions answered: the man from SHAAM was drinking.

Umar Ibn khataab (RLA) asked his script to write the following to him:
Salaam alaika , all praises due to ALLAH:
غَافِرِ الذَّنبِ وَقَابِلِ التَّوْبِ شَدِيدِ الْعِقَابِ ذِي الطَّوْلِ لَا إِلَهَ إِلَّا هُوَ إِلَيْهِ الْمَصِيرُ (40:3) (40:3)

40:3 (Y. Ali) "Who forgiveth sin, accepteth repentance, is strict in punishment, and hath a long reach (in all things). There is no god but He: to Him is the final goal."
After the man from SHAAM read these words from ALLAH
he kept repeating to himself: "Who forgiveth sin, accepteth repentance." HE stopped [the] sin of drinking [and] continued to visit Omar Ibn khtaab (RLA).
Our righteous predecessors kept [the] door of repentance and mercy open for Muslim sinners, and kept [the] door of Islam open for non Muslims .

Sister Ms. Huma Abedin is a practicing muslimah not a sinless Muslimah.

Who among us can claim purity from sin.
ALLAH knows best,
- Imam Salihou (New York)

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As Salaamu Alaikum
In the Name of Allah, Most Merciful and Mercy-Giving. As to what follows...

All of my research tells us that the marriage is prohibited according to Allah's words in 2:221 and 60:10-13. We are forbidden to marry our daughters (sisters, women) to non-believing men. meaning not believing as we believe, IN ALLAH. "Worship God (Allah) as He should be worshiped."

002.221 Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allure you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allure you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But God beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of Bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may receive admonition.

We can say without a doubt that Anthony Weiner is an unholy, non-practicing Jew who does not believe in God (Allah) as Muslims do. Her marriage to him is invalid. When Qur'an came to our Prophet the sahaba dissolved their marriages with those women who were not Muslim. The women of Quraysh who became Muslim were not allowed to go back to their non-believing husbands. After 60:10 and the violated treaty of Hudaibiyyah, the women were to not be returned to their non-Muslim husbands in Mecca by order of Allah.

If the family or her father gave her away to a non-Muslim, they have violated Allah and Qur'an. If she is a run-away, so-to speak, and did this on her own to achieve fame or fortune she will be totally responsible.

As to the baby, the child is a result of zina (fornication). The scholars differed on the issue. It is a long discussion that is inappropriate for this short response. However, suffice it to say the parents are responsible for any harm that comes to the child as a result of their misbehavior. And Allah knows best. Your brother

- Imam Warithudeen Umar (Albany, NY)
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Personally, I haven't had much better luck than she with my attempts at marriage with religious Muslim men, who were obsessed with their public image of religiosity. At least this Jewish husband is pleased to be seen with his wife in public. Jewish men are far more skilled than Muslim men (in general) at the psychological aspects of making a woman feel valued (whether it's sincere or not). There is more than one Pakistani/Indian girl that married out of the faith, not for glamour but because they don't want to be treated in the standard Desi fashion, where husbands don't even think it's necessary to love their wives, let alone express it. Muslim women usually feel like they are married to the house, not married to the man, with some exceptions. It is sad, because it would be easy to fix, if Muslim men tried to be a little more open-hearted to see their wives as genuine human beings with emotional needs, rather than using religion to control or shame them, keep them away from their friends, and using deceit or deliberate omission to cover up their own inadequacies. My last marriage ended because the brother (Arab) wouldn't explain to me his marital status with other women. I do know that he married three women before me without even telling the other women about each other, believing this to be halal. Maybe it's halal but it's not respectful nor ethical. All Jewish men cheat, but somehow they are able to make each woman feel special.


I will have something to say about this sister's legitimate grievance (as it pertains to her personal situation) - a predicament that is shared, no doubt by others, later, insha'Allah.

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