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14 March 2010 By Jonathan Cook
An Interview With Jonathan
Cook
In a wide-ranging interview with the New Left
Project, Nazareth-based journalist Jonathan Cook
describes the increasingly repressive nature of
Israeli society and the prospects for a solution to
the Israel-Palestine conflict
NLP: What did you
make of Ehud Barak’s recent comparison of Israel to
South Africa?
JC: We should be
extremely wary of ascribing a leftwing agenda to
senior Israeli politicians who make use of the word
“apartheid” in the Israeli-Palestinian context. Barak
was not claiming that Israel is an apartheid state
when he addressed the high-powered delegates at the
Herzliya conference last month; he was warning the
Netanyahu government that its approach to the
two-state solution was endangering Israel’s legitimacy
in the eyes of the world that would eventually lead to
it being called an apartheid state. He was
politicking. His goal was to intimidate Netanyahu into
signing up to his, and the Israeli centre’s,
long-standing agenda of “unilateral separation”:
statehood imposed on the Palestinians as a series of
bantustans (be sure, the irony is entirely lost on
Barak and others). Barak knows that Netanyahu
currently has no intention of creating any kind of
Palestinian state, even a bogus one, despite his
commitments to the US.
The last senior Israeli
politician to talk of “apartheid” was Ehud Olmert, and
it is worth remembering why he used the term. It was
back in November 2003, when he was deputy prime
minister and desperately trying to scare his boss,
Ariel Sharon, into reversing his long-standing support
for the settlements and adopt instead the
disengagement plan for Gaza. Olmert’s thinking was
that by severing Gaza from the Greater Israel project
– by pretending the occupation had ended there –
Israel could buy a few more years before it faced a
Palestinian majority and the danger of being compared
to apartheid South Africa. It worked and Sharon became
the improbable “man of peace” for which he is today
remembered. (Strangely, Olmert, like Barak, defined
apartheid in purely mathematical terms: Israeli rule
over the Palestinians would only qualify as apartheid
at the moment Jews became a numerical minority.)
Barak is playing a
similar game with Netanyahu, this time trying to
pressure him to separate from the main populated areas
of the West Bank. It is not surprising the task has
fallen to the Labor leader. The two other chief
exponents of unilateral separation are out of the way:
Olmert is standing trial and Tzipi Livni is in the
wilderness of opposition. Barak is hoping to apply
pressure from inside the government. Barak is
eminently qualified for the job. He took on the mantel
of the Oslo process after Yitzhak Rabin’s
assassination and then tried to engineer the final
separation implicit in Oslo at Camp David in 2000 – on
extremely advantageous terms for Israel.
Can he succeed in
changing Netanyahu’s mind? It seems unlikely.
NLP: Avi Shlaim
recently described Tony Blair as ‘Gaza’s Great
Betrayer’. What do you make of Tony Blair’s role as
Middle East peace envoy?
JC: Blair is a
glorified salesman, selling the same snakeoil to
different customers.
First, he is here to
provide a façade of Western concern about mending the
Middle East. He suggests that the West is committed to
action even as it fails to intervene and the situation
of the Palestinians generally, and those in Gaza in
particular, deteriorates rapidly. He sells us the
continuing dispossession of the Palestinians in a
bottle labelled “peace”.
He is also here as a
sort of European proconsul to advise the Americans on
how to repackage their policies. The US has become
aware that it has lost all credibility with the rest
of the world on this issue. Blair’s job is to redesign
the bottle labelled “US honest broker” so that we will
be prepared to buy the product again.
His next task is to try
to wheedle out of Israel any minor concession he can
secure on behalf of the Palestinians and persuade Tel
Aviv to cooperate in selling an empty bottle labelled
“hope” as a breakthrough in the peace process.
And finally, he is here
to create the impression that his chief task is to
defend the interests of the Palestinians. To this end,
he collects the three bottles, puts them in some
pretty wrapping paper and writes on the label
“Palestinian state”.
For his labours he is
being handsomely rewarded, especially by Israel.
NLP: You have
described how Israel is becoming increasingly
repressive regarding its own Arab population. In what
ways?
JC: Let’s be clear:
Israel has always been “repressive” of its Palestinian
minority. Its first two decades were marked by a very
harsh military government for the Palestinian
population inside Israel. Thousands of Bedouin, for
example, were expelled from their homes in the Negev
several years after Israel’s establishment and forced
into the Sinai. Israel’s past should not be glorified.
What I have argued is
that the direction taken by Israeli policy since the
Oslo process began has been increasingly dangerous for
the Palestinian minority. Before Oslo, Israel was
chiefly interested in containing and controlling the
minority. After Oslo, it has been trying to engineer a
situation in which it can claim to no longer be
responsible for the Palestinians inside Israel with
formal citizenship.
This is intimately tied
to Israel’s more general policy of “unilateral
separation” from the Palestinians under occupation: in
Gaza, through the disengagement; in the West Bank,
through the building of the wall. Israel’s chief
concern is that – post-separation, were Palestinian
citizens to remain inside the Jewish state – they
would have far greater legitimacy in demanding the
same rights as Jews. Israelis regard that as an
existential threat to their state: Palestinian
citizens could use their power, for example, to demand
a right of return for their relatives and thereby
create a Palestinian majority. The problem for Israel
is that Palestinian citizens can expose the sham of
Israel’s claims to being a democratic state.
So as part of its
policy of separation, Israel has been thinking about
how to get rid of the Palestinian minority, or at the
very least how to disenfranchise it in a way that
appears democratic. It is a long game that I describe
in detail in my book Blood and Religion.
Policymakers are
considering different approaches, from physically
expelling Israel’s Palestinian citizens to the
bantustans in the territories to stripping them
incrementally of their remaining citizenship rights,
in the hope that they will choose to leave. At the
moment we are seeing the latter policy being pursued,
but there are plenty of people in the government who
want the former policy implemented when the political
climate is right.
NLP: The frequent
claim by Israeli officials is that Israel is a
democracy and that Israeli Arabs are afforded the same
rights as other citizens. What is your view?
JC: The widely shared
assumption that Israel is a democracy is a strange
one.
This is a democracy
without defined borders, encompassing parts of a
foreign territory, the West Bank, in which one ethnic
/ religious group – the Jewish settlers – has been
given the vote while another – the Palestinians – has
not. Those settlers, who are living outside the
internationally recognised borders of Israel, actually
put Benjamin Netanyahu and Avigdor Lieberman into
power.
It is also a democracy
that has transferred control over 13 per cent of its
sovereign territory (and a large proportion of its
inhabited land) to an external organisation, the
Jewish National Fund, which prevents a significant
proportion of Israel’s own citizenry – the 20 per cent
who are Palestinian – from having access to that land,
again based on ethnic / religious criteria.
It is a democracy that
historically gerrymandered its electoral constituency
by expelling most of the indigenous population outside
its borders – now referred to as the Palestinian
refugees – to ensure a Jewish majority. It has
continued to gerrymander its voting base by giving one
ethnic group, Jews around the world, an automatic
right to become citizens while denying that same right
to another ethnic group, Palestinian Arabs.
This is a democracy
that, despite a plethora of parties and the necessity
of creating broad coalition governments, has
consistently ensured that one set of parties (the
Palestinian and anti-Zionist ones) has been excluded
from government. In fact, Israel’s “democracy” is not
a competition between different visions of society, as
you would expect, but a country driven by a single
ideology called Zionism. In that sense, there has been
one-party rule in Israel since its birth. All the many
parties that have participated in government over the
years have agreed on one thing: that Israel should be
a state that gives privileges to citizens who belong
to one ethnic group. Where there is disagreement, it
is over narrow sectoral interests or over how to
manage the details of the occupation – an issue
related to territory outside Israel’s borders.
Defenders of the idea
that Israel is a democracy point to the country’s
universal suffrage. But that is hardly sufficent
grounds for classing Israel as a democracy. Israel was
also considered a democracy in the 1950s and early
1960s – before the occupation began – when a fifth of
the populace, the Palestinian minority inside Israel,
lived under a military government. Then as now, they
had the vote but during that period they could not
leave their villages without a permit from the
authorities.
My point is that giving
the vote to 20 per cent of the electorate that is
Palestinian is no proof of democracy if Israeli Jews
have rigged their “democracy” beforehand through
ethnic cleansing (the 1948 war); through
discriminatory immigration policies (the Law of
Return); and through the manipulation of borders to
include the settlers while excluding the occupied
Palestinians, even though both live in the same
territory.
Israeli academics who
consider these things have had to devise new
classifications to cope with these strange features of
the Israeli “democratic” landscape. The generous ones
call it an “ethnic democracy”; the more critical ones
an “ethnocracy”. Most are agreed, however, that it is
not the liberal democracy of most Westerners’
imaginations.
NLP: You describe
the long time anti-occupation activist and writer Uri
Avnery as being a “compromised critic” of Israel. What
do you mean by this? What is wrong with Avnery’s
position on the occupation?
JC: There’s nothing
wrong with Avnery’s position on the occupation. He
wants to end it, and he has worked strenuously and
bravely to do so over many decades.
The problem derives
from our, his readers’, tendency to misunderstand his
reasons for seeking an end to the occupation, and in
that sense I think his role in the Palestinian
solidarity movement has not been entirely helpful.
Avnery wants the occupation to end but, it is clear
from his writings, he is driven primarily by a desire
to protect Israel as a Jewish state, the kind of
ethnocratic state I have just described. Avnery does
not hide this: he has always declared himself a proud
Zionist. But in my view, his attachment to a state
privileging Jews compromises his ability to critique
the inherent logic of Zionism and to respond to
Israel’s fast-moving policies on the ground,
especially the goals of separation.
In a sense Avnery is
stuck romantically in the 1970s and 1980s, the heydey
of Palestinian resistance. Then the Palestinian
struggle was much more straightforward: it was for
national liberation. In those days Avnery’s battle was
chiefly inside the Palestine Liberation Organisation,
not inside Israel. He favoured a two-state solution
when many in the PLO were promoting a vision of a
single democratic state encompassing both Palestinians
and Israelis. As we know, Avnery won that ideological
battle: Arafat signed up to the two-state vision and
eventually became the head of the Palestinian
Authority, the Palestinian government-in-waiting.
But with Oslo, and
formal Palestinian consent to the partition of
historic Palestine, Avnery had to switch the focus of
his struggle back to Israel, where there was much more
resistance to the idea. While the Palestinian leaders
were willing, even enthusiastic participants in the
Oslo process, Israel’s leaders were much more cynical.
They wanted a Palestinian dictatorship in the OPTs,
led by Arafat, that would suppress all dissent while
Israel would continue exploiting the land and water
resources and the Palestinian labour-force through a
series of industrial zones.
Because of his
emotional investment in the separation policy of Oslo,
Avnery has been very slow to appreciate Israel’s bad
faith in this process. As the horrors of the wall and
the massacres in Gaza have unfolded, I have started to
see in his writings a very belated caution, a
hesitation. That is to be welcomed. But I think
looking to Avnery for guidance about where the
Palestinian struggle against the occupation should
head now – for instance, on the question of boycott,
divestment and sanctions – is probably unwise. On
other matters, he still has many fascinating insights
to offer.
NLP: You are an
advocate of a one state solution to the conflict.
Given the overwhelming opposition of most Israelis to
such a solution how is this to come about?
JC: Let me make an
initial qualification. I do not regard myself as being
an “advocate” for any particular solution to the
conflict. I would happily support a two-state solution
if I thought it was possible. I do not have a view
about which technical arrangement is needed for
Palestinians and Israelis to live happy, secure lives.
If that can be achieved in a two-state solution, then
I am all in favour.
My support for one
state follows from the fact that I have yet to see
anyone making a convincing case for two states, given
the current realities. Those in the progressive
community who advocate for the two-state solution seem
to do so because their knowledge of the conflict is
based on understandings a decade or more out of date,
and typically because they know little about what
drives Israeli policies inside Israel’s
internationally recognised borders – which is hardly
surprising, given the dearth of reporting on the
subject.
This relates to the
question of how Israelis can be won over. If the
criterion for deciding whether a solution is viable is
whether it is acceptable to Israeli Jewish public
opinion, then the two-state crowd have exactly the
same problem as the one-state crowd. There is no
popular backing in Israel for a full withdrawal to the
1967 borders; a connection between the West Bank and
Gaza; open borders for the Palestinian state and the
right for it to forge diplomatic alliances as it
chooses; a Palestinian army and air force; Palestinian
rights to their water resources; Jerusalem as
Palestine’s capital; and so on. Almost no Israeli Jews
would vote for a government advocating that solution.
When we hear of polls
showing an Israeli majority for a two-state solution,
that is not what the respondents are referring to:
they mean a series of bantustans surrounded by Israeli
territory and settlers; severe controls on Palestinian
movement between those bantustans; Palestine’s capital
in Abu Dis or some other village near Jerusalem;
Israel’s continuing control of the water; no
Palestinian army; and so on. The Israeli public’s
vision of Palestine is the same as its leadership’s:
an extension of the Gaza model to the West Bank.
So we might as well
forget about pandering to Israeli public opinion for
the moment. It will change when it is offered a
different cost-benefit calculus for its continuing
rule over the Palestinians, as occurred among white
South Africans who were encouraged to turn against the
apartheid regime. That is the purpose of campaigns
like boycott, divestment and santions. Let’s think
instead about workable solutions that accord with the
rights of Israelis and Palestinians to live decent
lives.
Interestingly, despite
the mistaken assumption that Israelis favour a (real)
two-state solution over a one-state solution, there
are now indications that a broad coalition of Israelis
accept that the moment for a two-state solution has
passed. Meron Benvenisti, the former deputy mayor of
Jerusalem, is one from the Zionist left. But
surprisingly he was recently joined by Tzipi Hotovely,
an influential MP from Netanyahu’s Likud party, who
argues for granting citizenship to Palestinians in the
West Bank.
NLP: Other writers
such as Noam Chomsky and Norman Finkelstein argue in
favour of a two-state solution, pointing out that
world opinion and international law is firmly on the
side of such a solution. How do you respond?
JC: Much as I respect
Finkelstein and Chomsky, I find those arguments
unconvincing.
“World opinion” in this
case means little more than opinion in Washington, and
as Chomsky has eloquently pointed out on many
occasions the US, along with Israel, is the
rejectionist party to the conflict. In fact, it is
precisely because the US and Israel are the
rejectionist camp that we should be wary of accepting
that a two-state arrangement is a viable solution to
the conflict now that the leaderships of both
countries ostensibly support it.
Rather I would argue
that the US and Israel pay lipserve to a two-state
solution to provide cover for the emerging reality on
the ground, in which Jewish privilege is being
maintained in a unilaterally imposed one-state
solution by Israel. Without that cover, the apartheid
nature of the regime and the creeping programme of
ethnic cleansing would be blindingly obvious to
everyone.
Since Oslo, Barak,
Sharon, Olmert and Livni all understood that “world
opinion” could be kept at bay only as long as Israel
appeared to favour a two-state solution. Netanyahu has
embarrassed the West, and the US in particular, by
dropping that pretence. It is why he is so unpopular
and why we are starting to see more critical coverage
of Israel in the media. Things are not worse, at least
in the occupied territories, than they were under
Olmert and co (in fact, it could be argued that they
are moderately better), but it is much easier for
journalists to cover some of the reality now. I guess
this is a way of bringing Netanyahu into line.
The international law
argument in this context is not much more helpful.
While international law offers a discrete and
invaluable set of principles when it comes to
determining the rules of war, for instance, matters
are not so straightforward when related to borders and
territory.
Which bit of
international law are we referring to? Why not take as
our reference point the 1947 partition plan, which
would see nearly half of historic Palestine returned
to the Palestinians, and Jerusalem under international
control? And what are we to make of UN Resolution 242,
which refers to “the acquisition of territories” in
the English version and “the acquisition of the
territories” in the French version? Should the
Palestinians be offered 28 per cent of their homeland
or less than 28 per cent? And what do the Oslo accords
mean in practice for Palestinian statehood, given that
the final status issues were left open?
One can argue over
these points endlessly, and dwelling on them to the
exclusion of all other considerations is a recipe for
helping the powerful in their struggle to ensure that
the status quo – the occupation – is maintained.
The primary goals of
international law are twofold: to safeguard the
dignity of human beings; and to ensure their right to
self-determination. In my view, those aims cannot be
realised in a two-state solution, given both the
realities on the ground and the conditions on
Palestinian sovereignty being demanded by Israel and
the international community.
Instead we should look
to international law to provide a frame of reference
for finding a political solution to the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict, but it should not tie
our hands. The objective is to find a practical and
creative political arrangement that has legitimacy in
the eyes of both parties and can ensure that Israelis
and Palestinians lead happy, secure lives. The goal
here is not a technical solution; it is an enduring
peace.
NLP: British media
coverage of the conflict is typically more sympathetic
towards Israel than towards Palestinians and generally
fails to give proper historical background to the
conflict. Why do you believe the British media behaves
in this way regarding the conflict
JC: There are various
reasons that are sometimes difficult to disentangle.
For the sake of simplicity, I will separate them into
three categories: practical issues facing journalists
covering the conflict; expectations imposed by the
supposed “professionalism” of journalism; and
ideological and structural constraints that reflect
the fact that the dominant journalism practised today
is a journalism cowed by corporate interests.
Of the practical
issues, one of the most important – though least
spoken of, for obvious reasons – is the fact that
foreign desks prefer to appoint Jewish reporters to
cover the conflict. In part the preference for Jewish
reporters reflects an assessment, and probaby a
correct one, by editors that Israel, not the
Palestinians, makes the news and that Jewish reporters
will fare better as they negotiate the corridors of
power in a self-declared Jewish state. Faced with
candidates for the job, a foreign editor will often
take the easy choice of a Jew who speaks fluent
Hebrew, has family here who will provide ready-made
contacts, and has some sort of commitment to living
here and gaining a deeper understanding of (Israeli)
life. Of course, those are precisely the reasons why
an editor ought to judge the reporter unsuitable, but
in practice it does not work that way.
I know from my own
experiences that most Israeli officials try to find
out whether you are Jewish before they will build any
kind of intimacy with you as a reporter. That works to
the advantage of Jewish reporters when a job comes up
in Jerusalem.
I should add that the
historical tendency of the Britsh media to appoint
Jewish reporters has diminished in recent years,
possibly because the desks have become more
self-conscious about it. But it is still very strong
among the American media, and it is the American media
that set the news agenda on the conflict. The NYT’s
Ethan Bronner is fairly typical on that score and the
paper’s indulgent decision to allow him to continue in
his posting after revelations of a clear conflict of
interest – that his son has joined the Israeli army –
simply highlights the point.
A second practical
issue is the location of British bureaus: in Jewish
West Jerusalem. That results in a natural
identification with Israeli concerns. It would be just
as easy, and cheaper, to locate journalists a short
distance away in Ramallah, or even in a Palestinian
neighbourhood of East Jerusalem, but few if any do so.
Then there are the
local sources of information that a reporter relies
on. He or she reads the Israeli media, most of which
have English editions, and comes to understand the
conflict through the analyses and commentaries of
Israeli journalists. This is even more true for those
reporters who read Hebrew. Are there any British
journalists reading the Palestinian media in Arabic? I
doubt it.
Similarly, Israeli
spokespeople are much more likely to be sources of
information: they usually speak English; they are
accessible, especially if you are Jewish and seen as
“sympathetic” to Israel; and they are authoritative
from the point of view of the correspondents. By
contrast, the Palestinians are in a much weaker
position. Who counts as a Palestinian spokesperson?
Usually reporters turn to the Palestinian Authority
for comments, even though the PA’s agenda is severely
compromised and Palestinian opinion is deeply divided.
In addition, official Palestinian spokespeople are
often hamstrung by a rigid bureaucracy, lack of
accountability, problems of language, and little
knowledge of the decisions being taken in Tel Aviv and
West Jerusalem that shape their lives.
Issues deriving from
journalism’s so-called “professionalism” must be
factored in too. The professional training of
journalists encourages them to believe that there are
objective criteria that define what counts as news. A
consequence is that professional journalists are
expected to follow similar lines of inquiry and turn
to the same groups of “neutral” contacts. This
justifies both the hunting-in-packs philosophy that
underpins most mainstream journalism and the reliance
on establishment sources whom journalists use to
interpret the news story.
In the case of
Israel-Palestine, we end up with very similar looking
accounts of the conflict that are usually filtered
through the perspectives of a narrow elite of
politicians, academics and diplomats who share in the
main fanciful assumptions about the conflict: that
there is a meaningful peace process; that Israeli
leaders are acting in good faith; that the occupation
is unpleasant but temporary; that the Palestinians are
their own worst enemies or genetically prone to
terrorism; that the occupation in Gaza has ended; that
the Americans are a neutral broker in the conflict;
and so on.
“Balance” is also seen
as an essential quality in any professional news
report. Balance of the “Israel said-the Palestinians
said” variety encourages a view that the two sides in
the conflict are equal. It favours the status quo,
which favours Israel because it is the dominant party.
Another issue that
skews coverage is the fact that professional
journalists are supposed to take directions in their
coverage from senior editors, usually thousands of
miles away. The mainstream media is very hierarchical
and few journalists will risk engaging in repeated
fights with senior editors if they wish to be
successful. The problem is that those editors have
formed their views of the conflict in part by reading
influential columnists, particularly those in the US
who are considered to be close to the centres of
power. That means that Zionist commentators like
Thomas Friedman and the late William Safire shape
British editors’ understanding of the region and
therefore also the sort of coverage they expect from
their reporters. Professional journalists do not
usually invent things to satisfy their editors but
they do steer clear of certain topics and lines of
inquiry that conflict with their editors’ assumptions.
This tendency is
strongly reinforced by the pro-Israel lobby in
Britain, which gives reporters and their editors a
hard time whenever they depart from common, and
usually erroneous, assumptions about Israel. The sheer
weight of the lobby, both in terms of its leaders’
connections to the British elites and its large number
of foot soldiers, makes it very intimidating to the
media. Minor matters of interpretation by a reporter
can quickly be blown into a full-scale scandal of
biased reporting or accusations of anti-Semitism. Even
accurate reporting that is critical of Israel can be
damaging to a journalist’s reputation, as Jeremy Bowen
found out last year when absurd complaints against him
were upheld by the BBC Trust.
The effect of the lobby
in Britain is further heightened by the far greater
power of the pro-Israel lobby in the US. British
editors, as we have already noted, look to US
commentators for guidance about the conflict. So the
US lobby, in shaping the views of the American media,
also affects the British media’s conceptions too.
These last problems are
closely related to the much larger structural and
ideological issues affecting modern journalism that
direct the coverage of Israel-Palestine.
In my early career
working for British newspapers, I was a very
traditional liberal journalist. Only when I turned
freelance, moved to the Middle East and started
covering the Israel-Palestine conflict from a
Palestinian city did I discover that most of my
life-long assumptions about the liberal British media
were untenable. It was a period of rapid and profound
disillusionment. Out here, I was faced with a stark
choice: report the conflict in the same distorted and
misleading manner adopted by the mainstream reporters
or become a so-called “dissident” journalist. I
struggled with the first option for a while,
publishing in the Guardian and the International
Herald Tribune when I could, but it was with a heavy
conscience. It was during this period that I heard
about the propaganda model of Ed Hermann and Noam
Chomsky, as well as websites like Media Lens, which
finally made sense of my own experiences as a
journalist.
The structural problem
of modern journalism is a huge subject I cannot do
more than outline here.
Professional journalism
exists in its current state because it is subsidised
by fabulously wealthy owners and fabulously wealthy
advertisers, both of whom share the interests of the
corporate elites that rule our societies. The
corporate-owned media ensures its journalists share
its corporate values through a process of “filtering”.
Journalists who make it to a position like Jerusalem
bureau chief, for example, have gone through a very
lengthy selection process that weeds out anyone
considered undesirable. Typically an undesirable
journalist fails to abide by the implicit rules of the
profession: she is not intimidated in the face of
power and authority, she looks beyond the elites to
other sources of information, she rejects the bogus
idea of objectivity and neutrality, and so on. Such
journalists either get stuck in lowly jobs or are
pushed out.
The result is a sort of
Darwinian natural selection that ensures corporate,
clubbable journalists rise to the top and select in
their image those who follow behind them.
Given this analysis of
corporate journalism, it becomes much easier to
understand why the media in the West, where financial,
military and industrial interests prevail, should
demonstrate a much greater sympathy for Israel’s
concerns than the Palestinians’.
Jonathan Cook is a
writer and journalist based in Nazareth, Israel. His
latest books are “Israel
and the Clash of Civilisations: Iraq, Iran and the
Plan to Remake the Middle East” (Pluto
Press) and “Disappearing
Palestine: Israel's Experiments in Human Despair”
(Zed Books). His website is www.jkcook.net.
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